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		<title>By: The Financial Brand &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Virgin&#8217;s sexy brand should shock just about everyone</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Financial Brand &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Virgin&#8217;s sexy brand should shock just about everyone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] If you doubt Virgin&#8217;s powers of disruption, all you have to do is look at what the brand has already done in other industries. These guys are smart marketers, crazy innovators, and they know how to execute. They are creative, provocative and obsess over details. Just look. These guys bring their A-game every day, something that should scare everyone in retail banking. Their sometimes lewd nature may appeal to everyone, but then again, the best brands never do. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] If you doubt Virgin&#8217;s powers of disruption, all you have to do is look at what the brand has already done in other industries. These guys are smart marketers, crazy innovators, and they know how to execute. They are creative, provocative and obsess over details. Just look. These guys bring their A-game every day, something that should scare everyone in retail banking. Their sometimes lewd nature may appeal to everyone, but then again, the best brands never do. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Editor</title>
		<link>http://thefinancialbrand.com/7630/financial-demographics/#comment-3033</link>
		<dc:creator>Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the comment Mark. You&#039;re absolutely correct.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment Mark. You&#8217;re absolutely correct.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Arnold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As always, great post Jeffery! We see such broad definitions of &quot;target markets&quot; that they really aren&#039;t targets at all. The more specific a target, the better the target. Relevance and differentiation are they keys to marketing now. 

&quot;Why should I do business with your financial institution&quot; is a question most banks and credit unions struggle with. And the answer to that question is NOT &quot;service!&quot; If you can&#039;t answer that key question in less than 15 seconds people won&#039;t listen to you.

Thanks again for a thought-provoking post!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As always, great post Jeffery! We see such broad definitions of &#8220;target markets&#8221; that they really aren&#8217;t targets at all. The more specific a target, the better the target. Relevance and differentiation are they keys to marketing now. </p>
<p>&#8220;Why should I do business with your financial institution&#8221; is a question most banks and credit unions struggle with. And the answer to that question is NOT &#8220;service!&#8221; If you can&#8217;t answer that key question in less than 15 seconds people won&#8217;t listen to you.</p>
<p>Thanks again for a thought-provoking post!</p>
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		<title>By: Editor</title>
		<link>http://thefinancialbrand.com/7630/financial-demographics/#comment-2918</link>
		<dc:creator>Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 00:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the comment Brady. I have always respected the insights of you and your team.

The problem is commonly stated this way: &quot;Our average age is older, around 58, and it&#039;s aging, so we need to appeal to a younger demographic... But!!! without alienating our existing, long term customers.&quot;

Unfortunately, they often seem to think that means creating an identity that is &quot;middle of the road&quot; instead of committing to a more contemporary identity with a more progressive message -- something with real appeal for the younger demographic they seek. (Note: that does not necessarily mean &quot;hip,&quot; &quot;cool,&quot; &quot;funny,&quot; Web 2.0, etc.)

The reality is that you have to target the customers you want (i.e., younger members) and do so 100%, with absolute commitment.

No matter how progressive a financial institution takes their brand, existing long term customers seldom defect -- a truth I&#039;ve seen borne out dozens of times with data from my real world, first hand experiences. Surely, there are always a few curmudgeons who hate change of any kind. They may decide to leave, but more often than not, their departure is largely symbolic. So what if they close their $200 savings accounts or their $500 CDs? It isn&#039;t a large group of people who protest.

Most existing customers are unaffected by a brand overhaul. Some even see it for what it should be: a positive change to keep the organization fresh and relevant, growing for the future.

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Re: Targeting &quot;18-55.&quot; Yes, there could very well be a target audience that encompasses this demographic. ING Direct is a good example. They are targeting &quot;Savers,&quot; with an emphasis on those who are online, fairly tech savvy and prefer self-service. That group does include people of almost any age. I&#039;m guessing their sweet spot is Gen X though. I could be wrong.

Also, the larger banks do target everyone. Like Bank of America. They want to be America&#039;s bank, the bank for all Americans. Same thing for Wells Fargo, Chase, Citi, etc. But it takes a pretty big infrastructure to be a bank for everyone. Besides, that brand position is locked up in the market by large banks, so trying to compete on that basis is pretty tough.

I suppose the point is that if you haven&#039;t defined your target audience any further than demographics or if your focus isn&#039;t any more narrow than &quot;18-55,&quot; you&#039;ve still got some work to do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment Brady. I have always respected the insights of you and your team.</p>
<p>The problem is commonly stated this way: &#8220;Our average age is older, around 58, and it&#8217;s aging, so we need to appeal to a younger demographic&#8230; But!!! without alienating our existing, long term customers.&#8221;</p>
<p>Unfortunately, they often seem to think that means creating an identity that is &#8220;middle of the road&#8221; instead of committing to a more contemporary identity with a more progressive message &#8212; something with real appeal for the younger demographic they seek. (Note: that does not necessarily mean &#8220;hip,&#8221; &#8220;cool,&#8221; &#8220;funny,&#8221; Web 2.0, etc.)</p>
<p>The reality is that you have to target the customers you want (i.e., younger members) and do so 100%, with absolute commitment.</p>
<p>No matter how progressive a financial institution takes their brand, existing long term customers seldom defect &#8212; a truth I&#8217;ve seen borne out dozens of times with data from my real world, first hand experiences. Surely, there are always a few curmudgeons who hate change of any kind. They may decide to leave, but more often than not, their departure is largely symbolic. So what if they close their $200 savings accounts or their $500 CDs? It isn&#8217;t a large group of people who protest.</p>
<p>Most existing customers are unaffected by a brand overhaul. Some even see it for what it should be: a positive change to keep the organization fresh and relevant, growing for the future.</p>
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<p>Re: Targeting &#8220;18-55.&#8221; Yes, there could very well be a target audience that encompasses this demographic. ING Direct is a good example. They are targeting &#8220;Savers,&#8221; with an emphasis on those who are online, fairly tech savvy and prefer self-service. That group does include people of almost any age. I&#8217;m guessing their sweet spot is Gen X though. I could be wrong.</p>
<p>Also, the larger banks do target everyone. Like Bank of America. They want to be America&#8217;s bank, the bank for all Americans. Same thing for Wells Fargo, Chase, Citi, etc. But it takes a pretty big infrastructure to be a bank for everyone. Besides, that brand position is locked up in the market by large banks, so trying to compete on that basis is pretty tough.</p>
<p>I suppose the point is that if you haven&#8217;t defined your target audience any further than demographics or if your focus isn&#8217;t any more narrow than &#8220;18-55,&#8221; you&#8217;ve still got some work to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Brady Walen</title>
		<link>http://thefinancialbrand.com/7630/financial-demographics/#comment-2917</link>
		<dc:creator>Brady Walen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 23:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeffry, thanks for writing this - we talk about these points with bankers everyday.  Something that we often find is that bankers will talk about their &#039;target&#039; as 18-55; but this is the target because it represents a group that is younger than many of their current customers.  These bankers still want to serve (and market to) these older customers, so this only makes the group that much bigger...it really can be &#039;all people&#039; for some institutions.

On another note, we are seeing more institutions using psychographic data for targeting, which is encouraging. It will be interesting to see how that data changes as consumer behaviors change given the current economy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeffry, thanks for writing this &#8211; we talk about these points with bankers everyday.  Something that we often find is that bankers will talk about their &#8216;target&#8217; as 18-55; but this is the target because it represents a group that is younger than many of their current customers.  These bankers still want to serve (and market to) these older customers, so this only makes the group that much bigger&#8230;it really can be &#8216;all people&#8217; for some institutions.</p>
<p>On another note, we are seeing more institutions using psychographic data for targeting, which is encouraging. It will be interesting to see how that data changes as consumer behaviors change given the current economy.</p>
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