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	<title>Comments on: Why Social Media Is a Waste of Time for Most Banks &amp; Credit Unions</title>
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		<title>By: Bob Henderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Henderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 16:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point on the check-in&#039;s if they want to discourage more lobby traffic. I think that FourSquare, Loopt and Yelp are the main ones on that. But if you aren&#039;t offering incentives for check-in&#039;s, I wonder how many people are going to a F.I. just to do that? I think that there are a few reasons, even if SEO is not important to them:

Anyone can claim a business (if no one else has, and I&#039;m seeing a lot that haven&#039;t*) on dozens of these sites. I would want to take control of that from a security standpoint, as well as making sure the location is correct, hours, contact information, photo/logo, etc. If (big if) proximity to brick and mortar is still driving the initial selection of a bank or credit union by many consumers, wouldn&#039;t it help to have your presence on a mobile app? If a F.I. wants to draw new younger customers, I think that registration on these sites might be worthwhile. It&#039;s free and easy to do.

Most of all, I would want to have some monitoring of these internally to see what the public is saying, good or bad. As I said, anyone can register a business on many of these sites, except for the big guys like Google and Bing that require a post card confirmation and website code insertion, respectively. 

As far as the marketing potential, I agree that it hasn&#039;t proven any significant results that I have seen, and may not. Running specials and adding coupons on places like Google Places is free the last time I looked. I wonder if that might be worthwhile? Most of this seems designed for general merchants, like restaurants and retailers. I&#039;m just wondering if there is a place for it with F.I.&#039;s? Is Google Places even being considered Social Media? MapQuest or a GPS? In general, I wouldn&#039;t put a lot of resources into it now, but I would want to have at least a physical presence and my ear to the ground. 

*I do see that the regional&#039;s and above have more of a physical presence on these sites when I search F.I.&#039;s in the mobile search categories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point on the check-in&#8217;s if they want to discourage more lobby traffic. I think that FourSquare, Loopt and Yelp are the main ones on that. But if you aren&#8217;t offering incentives for check-in&#8217;s, I wonder how many people are going to a F.I. just to do that? I think that there are a few reasons, even if SEO is not important to them:</p>
<p>Anyone can claim a business (if no one else has, and I&#8217;m seeing a lot that haven&#8217;t*) on dozens of these sites. I would want to take control of that from a security standpoint, as well as making sure the location is correct, hours, contact information, photo/logo, etc. If (big if) proximity to brick and mortar is still driving the initial selection of a bank or credit union by many consumers, wouldn&#8217;t it help to have your presence on a mobile app? If a F.I. wants to draw new younger customers, I think that registration on these sites might be worthwhile. It&#8217;s free and easy to do.</p>
<p>Most of all, I would want to have some monitoring of these internally to see what the public is saying, good or bad. As I said, anyone can register a business on many of these sites, except for the big guys like Google and Bing that require a post card confirmation and website code insertion, respectively. </p>
<p>As far as the marketing potential, I agree that it hasn&#8217;t proven any significant results that I have seen, and may not. Running specials and adding coupons on places like Google Places is free the last time I looked. I wonder if that might be worthwhile? Most of this seems designed for general merchants, like restaurants and retailers. I&#8217;m just wondering if there is a place for it with F.I.&#8217;s? Is Google Places even being considered Social Media? MapQuest or a GPS? In general, I wouldn&#8217;t put a lot of resources into it now, but I would want to have at least a physical presence and my ear to the ground. </p>
<p>*I do see that the regional&#8217;s and above have more of a physical presence on these sites when I search F.I.&#8217;s in the mobile search categories.</p>
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		<title>By: Editor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 19:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bob - No doubt that geolocational reference tools like Foursquare, Yelp and MapQuest have value to consumers. But what&#039;s interesting about those three examples specifically is that they all require very little from financial institutions. There isn&#039;t much a marketer can do on platforms like those. Much like Wikipedia, it is each site&#039;s community that builds the content for [Bank X], not the other way around — as it is with Facebook and Twitter, where the marketer has to constantly publish content and hold promotions to build their community.

If you looked at the bottom half of all financial institutions ranked by assets, you would find very few Foursquare check-ins. A $200 million credit union with one marketing employee would find only a handful checkins every month. Which raises the question: Should a small financial institution with limited staff and limited resources work to engage such a small segment of their base? What does that engagement look like? How does it benefit the financial institution? And, strategically speaking, &lt;a href=&quot;http://thefinancialbrand.com/19510/dbs-bank-dupaco-credit-union-foursquare-facebook-places/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;should you even be rewarding more Foursquare checkins&lt;/a&gt; at your costly physical branch locations? Or should you be discouraging that kind of activity?

And yes, social media definitely does have a positive effect on SEO. However, most financial institutions organically rank high (enough) already, so how important is improving SEO to them? Generally speaking, a search for &quot;XYZ Bank&quot; will yield results ranked according to the relative size of institutions bearing the &quot;XYZ&quot; name (or something similar). A financial institution&#039;s SEO ranking is largely a factor of its assets: more = higher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bob &#8211; No doubt that geolocational reference tools like Foursquare, Yelp and MapQuest have value to consumers. But what&#8217;s interesting about those three examples specifically is that they all require very little from financial institutions. There isn&#8217;t much a marketer can do on platforms like those. Much like Wikipedia, it is each site&#8217;s community that builds the content for [Bank X], not the other way around — as it is with Facebook and Twitter, where the marketer has to constantly publish content and hold promotions to build their community.</p>
<p>If you looked at the bottom half of all financial institutions ranked by assets, you would find very few Foursquare check-ins. A $200 million credit union with one marketing employee would find only a handful checkins every month. Which raises the question: Should a small financial institution with limited staff and limited resources work to engage such a small segment of their base? What does that engagement look like? How does it benefit the financial institution? And, strategically speaking, <a href="http://thefinancialbrand.com/19510/dbs-bank-dupaco-credit-union-foursquare-facebook-places/" rel="nofollow">should you even be rewarding more Foursquare checkins</a> at your costly physical branch locations? Or should you be discouraging that kind of activity?</p>
<p>And yes, social media definitely does have a positive effect on SEO. However, most financial institutions organically rank high (enough) already, so how important is improving SEO to them? Generally speaking, a search for &#8220;XYZ Bank&#8221; will yield results ranked according to the relative size of institutions bearing the &#8220;XYZ&#8221; name (or something similar). A financial institution&#8217;s SEO ranking is largely a factor of its assets: more = higher.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Henderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Henderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 17:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is a mapping software social media?

Like the word “bank”, “social media” covers a diverse population. The advantage that I see with sites like Yelp, Foursquare and even MapQuest, is that they are more of a reference tool for consumers to find a business that is near them (like the closest branch). Their mobile applications allow one to find a merchant or F.I. on the go. It also provides a relatively unfiltered (most of the time) look at the experience (some) customers have had with a particular business. This, of course is the double-edged sword that F.I.&#039;s also fear - and is being challenged in some cases (I predict a Supreme Court case with the AMA on that one!). Additionally, I have seen SM increase search engine optimization, i.e. Facebook boosts Bing rankings according to a SEO conference I attended last night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is a mapping software social media?</p>
<p>Like the word “bank”, “social media” covers a diverse population. The advantage that I see with sites like Yelp, Foursquare and even MapQuest, is that they are more of a reference tool for consumers to find a business that is near them (like the closest branch). Their mobile applications allow one to find a merchant or F.I. on the go. It also provides a relatively unfiltered (most of the time) look at the experience (some) customers have had with a particular business. This, of course is the double-edged sword that F.I.&#8217;s also fear &#8211; and is being challenged in some cases (I predict a Supreme Court case with the AMA on that one!). Additionally, I have seen SM increase search engine optimization, i.e. Facebook boosts Bing rankings according to a SEO conference I attended last night.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 20:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would add as a reply to Charlotte&#039;s comments that a corporation&#039;s hyper-attentiveness to the social media channel - and what appears to be a pretty profound neglect of the traditional channels - actually TRAINS consumers to use the very public medium of social media to resolve complaints. It&#039;s interesting to note that your first choice was not social media but a traditional channel.

In essence, by moving faster than the rest of the organization social media practioners are providing a perverse incentive to consumers to move the complaints process to a public forum. I would characterize the situation Charlotte described not as the success of the social media channel but the clear and profound failure of the traditional channel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would add as a reply to Charlotte&#8217;s comments that a corporation&#8217;s hyper-attentiveness to the social media channel &#8211; and what appears to be a pretty profound neglect of the traditional channels &#8211; actually TRAINS consumers to use the very public medium of social media to resolve complaints. It&#8217;s interesting to note that your first choice was not social media but a traditional channel.</p>
<p>In essence, by moving faster than the rest of the organization social media practioners are providing a perverse incentive to consumers to move the complaints process to a public forum. I would characterize the situation Charlotte described not as the success of the social media channel but the clear and profound failure of the traditional channel.</p>
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		<title>By: Editor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 20:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Charlotte,

Thanks for your comment. There&#039;s nothing wrong at all with banks and credit unions trying to deliver service to customers via social media channels. However, it seems that this strategy only makes sense for the largest financial institutions. If you have the chance, please read this article from The Financial Brand on social CRM: &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://thefinancialbrand.com/18272/social-media-mentions-vs-crm/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Should You Join The Social Media Conversation If No One Is Talking About You?&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/em&gt;Along those lines, I&#039;m curious if the bank you are referring to is one of the larger players?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Charlotte,</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment. There&#8217;s nothing wrong at all with banks and credit unions trying to deliver service to customers via social media channels. However, it seems that this strategy only makes sense for the largest financial institutions. If you have the chance, please read this article from The Financial Brand on social CRM: <em><a href="http://thefinancialbrand.com/18272/social-media-mentions-vs-crm/" rel="nofollow">Should You Join The Social Media Conversation If No One Is Talking About You?</a> </em>Along those lines, I&#8217;m curious if the bank you are referring to is one of the larger players?</p>
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		<title>By: Charlotte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlotte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 18:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am wondering if over the past 8 months since you wrote this if you have re-visited your stand?  As a consumer, I was recently on the phone with my bank....strike that...I was on the phone TRYING to talk with a real live person about a possible identity theft issue.  The frustration level continued to rise as they were difficult and unable to assist me.  I turned to twitter with my concerns (complaints) within MINUTES a rep tweeted me back asking me to follow so we could DM contact information.  They then had their superior call me, we had the whole issue worked out in a reasonable time frame.  I am very glad my bank is on social media, I both follow them and like them on FB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am wondering if over the past 8 months since you wrote this if you have re-visited your stand?  As a consumer, I was recently on the phone with my bank&#8230;.strike that&#8230;I was on the phone TRYING to talk with a real live person about a possible identity theft issue.  The frustration level continued to rise as they were difficult and unable to assist me.  I turned to twitter with my concerns (complaints) within MINUTES a rep tweeted me back asking me to follow so we could DM contact information.  They then had their superior call me, we had the whole issue worked out in a reasonable time frame.  I am very glad my bank is on social media, I both follow them and like them on FB.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Twitter and Nazis Motu Artist Management</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Twitter and Nazis Motu Artist Management</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 22:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] because something is popular, or is what everyone else is doing, doesn&#8217;t make it right. Take for instance, oh, we don&#8217;t know&#8230; German National [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Personal Relationships and Social Sales – Market Insights</title>
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		<dc:creator>Personal Relationships and Social Sales – Market Insights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2011 17:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s been a lot of talk within the financial services industry about the ROI of social media efforts. Let&#039;s face it, social media ROI is difficult to measure; especially when bankers are constantly cautioned about using social media as a sales channel. This intentional separation between social media and sales has many executives questioning the value of investing in social media efforts all together. As they should. The overall lack of impact social media has had across the industry with respect to marketing and more importantly, the bottom line, at institutions using it has even led some to conclude that social media is a waste of time for most banks and credit unions. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s been a lot of talk within the financial services industry about the ROI of social media efforts. Let&#8217;s face it, social media ROI is difficult to measure; especially when bankers are constantly cautioned about using social media as a sales channel. This intentional separation between social media and sales has many executives questioning the value of investing in social media efforts all together. As they should. The overall lack of impact social media has had across the industry with respect to marketing and more importantly, the bottom line, at institutions using it has even led some to conclude that social media is a waste of time for most banks and credit unions. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Strategija&#160;&#124;&#160;Stratego PR</title>
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		<dc:creator>Strategija&#160;&#124;&#160;Stratego PR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 13:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] izravan razlog za ovaj napis je text Why Social Media Is a Waste of Time for Most Banks &amp; Credit Unions na koji sam slučajno naletio. tekst nije kratak, nema puno slika, ali si ipak dajte truda i [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] izravan razlog za ovaj napis je text Why Social Media Is a Waste of Time for Most Banks &amp; Credit Unions na koji sam slučajno naletio. tekst nije kratak, nema puno slika, ali si ipak dajte truda i [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rebuilding an image &#124; Banking Zealot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebuilding an image &#124; Banking Zealot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2011 01:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] any event, there have been many articles on the tangible benefits of social media, however if the only goal of your bank&#8217;s social media strategy is to pick up a few accounts [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] any event, there have been many articles on the tangible benefits of social media, however if the only goal of your bank&#8217;s social media strategy is to pick up a few accounts [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Financial brands’ uneasy forays into social media : resource links to explore : Part#3 &#124; Ogilvy Digital Marketing Academy</title>
		<link>http://thefinancialbrand.com/15465/11-reasons-social-media-is-a-waste-of-time-for-financial-institutions/comment-page-1/#comment-28597</link>
		<dc:creator>Financial brands’ uneasy forays into social media : resource links to explore : Part#3 &#124; Ogilvy Digital Marketing Academy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Financial Brand is a lucid, human-language site full of reality-adjusting/useful posts like: http://thefinancialbrand.com/15465/11-reasons-social-media-is-a-waste-of-time-for-financial-institut.../  &gt;&gt; 11 Reasons Why Social Media is a Waste of Time for Financial Institutions [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Financial Brand is a lucid, human-language site full of reality-adjusting/useful posts like: <a href="http://thefinancialbrand.com/15465/11-reasons-social-media-is-a-waste-of-time-for-financial-institut" rel="nofollow">http://thefinancialbrand.com/15465/11-reasons-social-media-is-a-waste-of-time-for-financial-institut</a>&#8230;/  &gt;&gt; 11 Reasons Why Social Media is a Waste of Time for Financial Institutions [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Social Media ROI vs. ROA: Put Your Money Where Your Word-of-Mouth Is &#124; The Financial Brand: Marketing Insights for Banks &#38; Credit Unions</title>
		<link>http://thefinancialbrand.com/15465/11-reasons-social-media-is-a-waste-of-time-for-financial-institutions/comment-page-1/#comment-28573</link>
		<dc:creator>Social Media ROI vs. ROA: Put Your Money Where Your Word-of-Mouth Is &#124; The Financial Brand: Marketing Insights for Banks &#38; Credit Unions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 17:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] November 2010, The Financial Brand published an article titled “Why Social Media Is a Waste of Time for Most Banks &amp; Credit Unions.” The article stated: “Go to any bank or credit union Facebook page and what will you likely see? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] November 2010, The Financial Brand published an article titled “Why Social Media Is a Waste of Time for Most Banks &amp; Credit Unions.” The article stated: “Go to any bank or credit union Facebook page and what will you likely see? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Niet alle merken verzilveren hun merkkracht in social media &#124; be socialized</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niet alle merken verzilveren hun merkkracht in social media &#124; be socialized</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2011 10:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] onderwerp is al aardig wat geschreven. Financialbrand.com neemt hierover een heldere stelling in financialbrand beste banken, jullie hebben niets te zoeken in social media. Jullie zijn saai, mensen willen [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] onderwerp is al aardig wat geschreven. Financialbrand.com neemt hierover een heldere stelling in financialbrand beste banken, jullie hebben niets te zoeken in social media. Jullie zijn saai, mensen willen [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 03:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I defend Social Media - except in the case of Banking..because Banking IS Boring. 
Nice article!</description>
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Nice article!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 20:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are so many things wrong with this article I dont know where to start. Without a listening program (i.e. monitoring online conversations) I would imagine its hard to know whether investing in social media is worth it or not, and in what form. Im not sure how you can be so sure about social media&#039;s usefulness without having seen these conversations. How do you know if they are a priority or not without even knowing if there are any issues out there? 

All financial institutions should at the very least have a listening program in place. That goes without saying as far as I&#039;m concerned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are so many things wrong with this article I dont know where to start. Without a listening program (i.e. monitoring online conversations) I would imagine its hard to know whether investing in social media is worth it or not, and in what form. Im not sure how you can be so sure about social media&#8217;s usefulness without having seen these conversations. How do you know if they are a priority or not without even knowing if there are any issues out there? </p>
<p>All financial institutions should at the very least have a listening program in place. That goes without saying as far as I&#8217;m concerned.</p>
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