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	<title>Comments on: Data Reveals Truths About Gen Y’s Financial Habits</title>
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		<title>By: Gina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2011 20:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do know that Facebook users don&#039;t think of their personal page as an online community, rather an additional channel with which to communicate with one another. Gen Y does use Facebook to tell their friends and family what they are up to, and to keep track of the activities of others. I agree with previous posters that this research was perhaps not thought through from the standpoint of how people really use social media. &quot;Online communities&quot; can be interpreted as &quot;content that I do not own.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do know that Facebook users don&#8217;t think of their personal page as an online community, rather an additional channel with which to communicate with one another. Gen Y does use Facebook to tell their friends and family what they are up to, and to keep track of the activities of others. I agree with previous posters that this research was perhaps not thought through from the standpoint of how people really use social media. &#8220;Online communities&#8221; can be interpreted as &#8220;content that I do not own.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2011 22:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An older post, but I just happened upon it...

If anything, this study further illustrates the power of social media (when done well). Promoting brand advocacy - getting other people to spread the word about you - is a huge part of it. And a referral from a friend via a Facebook comment carries no more weight than a statement made in person. They are one and the same.

Additionally, I agree with some of the earlier statements that the phrase &quot;Online Community&quot; could have negatively impacted the results. I am active in several online social circles, and I&#039;ve not heard any of them referred to as such by other users.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An older post, but I just happened upon it&#8230;</p>
<p>If anything, this study further illustrates the power of social media (when done well). Promoting brand advocacy &#8211; getting other people to spread the word about you &#8211; is a huge part of it. And a referral from a friend via a Facebook comment carries no more weight than a statement made in person. They are one and the same.</p>
<p>Additionally, I agree with some of the earlier statements that the phrase &#8220;Online Community&#8221; could have negatively impacted the results. I am active in several online social circles, and I&#8217;ve not heard any of them referred to as such by other users.</p>
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		<title>By: Millennials Want Deals, Not Discounts &#124; Millennial Marketing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Millennials Want Deals, Not Discounts &#124; Millennial Marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 16:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Gen Y is into saving money. According to Fiserv, 75% of Gen Y consumers have a savings account, 5% higher than any other generation. Their overall credit card debt has gone down, despite the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Gen Y is into saving money. According to Fiserv, 75% of Gen Y consumers have a savings account, 5% higher than any other generation. Their overall credit card debt has gone down, despite the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Mills, William Mills Agency</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Mills, William Mills Agency</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 18:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting that Fiserv would issue this type of study...and suspect it is the CheckFree influence at work here.  I agree with MZ in that friends, family and significant others ARE our social media connections.  Social media is a means to connect to the people most influential in our lives.  Fiserv muddied the survey by mixing sources and channels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that Fiserv would issue this type of study&#8230;and suspect it is the CheckFree influence at work here.  I agree with MZ in that friends, family and significant others ARE our social media connections.  Social media is a means to connect to the people most influential in our lives.  Fiserv muddied the survey by mixing sources and channels.</p>
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		<title>By: Editor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 17:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I debated whether to use &quot;social media&quot; as a synonymous term for &quot;online community.&quot; Ultimately, I concluded that they have to be essentially the same thing.

I agree with you though: How was &quot;online community&quot; defined? If they used the term &quot;online community&quot; in the survey, then I could understand why social media would score lower than expected.

Also, I wonder if Gen-Y makes any distinction between recommendations, advice and referrals they get from friends and family online vs. other channels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I debated whether to use &#8220;social media&#8221; as a synonymous term for &#8220;online community.&#8221; Ultimately, I concluded that they have to be essentially the same thing.</p>
<p>I agree with you though: How was &#8220;online community&#8221; defined? If they used the term &#8220;online community&#8221; in the survey, then I could understand why social media would score lower than expected.</p>
<p>Also, I wonder if Gen-Y makes any distinction between recommendations, advice and referrals they get from friends and family online vs. other channels.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Shevlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Shevlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 15:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Brady: Was wondering the same thing. 

Another thing: Is this the complete list of &quot;influences&quot;? For seniors, the percentages don&#039;t add to 100, so it implies there are other sources. Like how about bank branch reps? 

Actually, since I haven&#039;t seen the source doc, just this article, maybe I should be asking Financial Brand: Were there were more sources shown, but only four included in the graphic in this article?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Brady: Was wondering the same thing. </p>
<p>Another thing: Is this the complete list of &#8220;influences&#8221;? For seniors, the percentages don&#8217;t add to 100, so it implies there are other sources. Like how about bank branch reps? </p>
<p>Actually, since I haven&#8217;t seen the source doc, just this article, maybe I should be asking Financial Brand: Were there were more sources shown, but only four included in the graphic in this article?</p>
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		<title>By: Brady Walen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brady Walen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 14:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be curious to know what the definition of &#039;online comunities&#039; is in this study.  And, I wonder if bank websites in this study would include microsites, blogs, etc.  While it&#039;s not all that surprising to see that Gen Y, and the other segments, allow trusted sources like friends &amp; family or a significant other to influence their financial decisions,  I do find it interesting that Gen Y reported being influenced more by each of these categories than all other segments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be curious to know what the definition of &#8216;online comunities&#8217; is in this study.  And, I wonder if bank websites in this study would include microsites, blogs, etc.  While it&#8217;s not all that surprising to see that Gen Y, and the other segments, allow trusted sources like friends &amp; family or a significant other to influence their financial decisions,  I do find it interesting that Gen Y reported being influenced more by each of these categories than all other segments.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Shevlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Shevlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 19:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good stuff. Let me share with you something that jumped out at me, and it has nothing to do with Gen Yers: Less than half of Boomers, and less than 3 in 10 seniors, said &quot;friends and family&quot; was an influential factor in their decision.

So what does this say about WOM (word-of-mouth) marketing and net promoter score? It supports some things that I&#039;ve been arguing for years: That focusing on &quot;intention to refer&quot; is a misguided metric.  And that the change (improvement) in a firm&#039;s NPS might reflect nothing more than an underlying shift in the demographics of its customer (or worse, survey sample) base.  

Here&#039;s another thing that I think marketers (specifically, the net promoter syndrome sufferers) just don&#039;t understand: People change. Got news for them: When I (and others of my generation, i.e. boomers) was in my 20s, I relied a lot more on friends/family for advice on products. Became less reliant over time. Will this happen with today&#039;s Gen Yers? Maybe not, thanks to the tools that exist that make it easier to connect w/ friends and family, but the Fiserv study goes to show how the focus on WOM is overblown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good stuff. Let me share with you something that jumped out at me, and it has nothing to do with Gen Yers: Less than half of Boomers, and less than 3 in 10 seniors, said &#8220;friends and family&#8221; was an influential factor in their decision.</p>
<p>So what does this say about WOM (word-of-mouth) marketing and net promoter score? It supports some things that I&#8217;ve been arguing for years: That focusing on &#8220;intention to refer&#8221; is a misguided metric.  And that the change (improvement) in a firm&#8217;s NPS might reflect nothing more than an underlying shift in the demographics of its customer (or worse, survey sample) base.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another thing that I think marketers (specifically, the net promoter syndrome sufferers) just don&#8217;t understand: People change. Got news for them: When I (and others of my generation, i.e. boomers) was in my 20s, I relied a lot more on friends/family for advice on products. Became less reliant over time. Will this happen with today&#8217;s Gen Yers? Maybe not, thanks to the tools that exist that make it easier to connect w/ friends and family, but the Fiserv study goes to show how the focus on WOM is overblown.</p>
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		<title>By: MZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 19:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good insights, as usual. I think the hype is way bigger than the reality, as you say. But I also think social media can be a useful part of the web of customer interactions. In that vein, I tend to view any social media stats with skepticism, whether they are raving good or dismal. In the end, I think social media is what you make of it.  

I imagine that influencing financial decisions could be a motivator for some financial services companies to engage in social media -- and in this case, it&#039;s useful to know that maybe such a goal is a waste of time. But it could be useful for other goals. 

Considering that &quot;friends and family&quot; often make up someone&#039;s &quot;online community&quot; (ie, mostly friends and family would be Gen Y&#039;s friends on FB and followers on Twitter), it might be interesting to drill down  on what the survey, or the survey participants, meant by &quot;online community.&quot;

Since this survey is about &quot;who do you trust&quot; in a way, I throw this out for consideration: Isn&#039;t it possible that via social media at least some customers start to view a &quot;bank&quot; or a &quot;credit union&quot; not as just that, but as the person they connected with on Twitter who helped fix that big problem they griped about in a tweet directed at nobody in particular? In that customer&#039;s mind, couldn&#039;t they potentially start to think of that bank or credit union with more positive feelings, as being more trustworthy than they previously might have believed, a kind of &quot;friend&quot; who was looking out for them when they had an issue? Maybe that bank or credit union then transitions to a higher level in the realm of influences; it becomes not just a faceless corporate entity that is part of an &quot;online community,&quot; but a little bit closer to being part of the &quot;friends&quot; circle. I&#039;m just thinking out loud.

It might sound like I&#039;m defending social media, but in reality I also question its true ROI value. Or at least I question it&#039;s value based on what financial services companies have done with it so far. I do trust that some companies will get more creative and impressive as time goes on. 

On another point: I agree with you that it&#039;s important to note the age ranges used to define the demographic groups. In this case, I think they are a little odd. I suppose they wanted to limit Gen Y to the adult portion of that group. But it might have been more useful to go with &quot;20somethings&quot; as a label than Gen Y. (I&#039;ve read one definition of Gen Y as being those born from late 70s to late 90s.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good insights, as usual. I think the hype is way bigger than the reality, as you say. But I also think social media can be a useful part of the web of customer interactions. In that vein, I tend to view any social media stats with skepticism, whether they are raving good or dismal. In the end, I think social media is what you make of it.  </p>
<p>I imagine that influencing financial decisions could be a motivator for some financial services companies to engage in social media &#8212; and in this case, it&#8217;s useful to know that maybe such a goal is a waste of time. But it could be useful for other goals. </p>
<p>Considering that &#8220;friends and family&#8221; often make up someone&#8217;s &#8220;online community&#8221; (ie, mostly friends and family would be Gen Y&#8217;s friends on FB and followers on Twitter), it might be interesting to drill down  on what the survey, or the survey participants, meant by &#8220;online community.&#8221;</p>
<p>Since this survey is about &#8220;who do you trust&#8221; in a way, I throw this out for consideration: Isn&#8217;t it possible that via social media at least some customers start to view a &#8220;bank&#8221; or a &#8220;credit union&#8221; not as just that, but as the person they connected with on Twitter who helped fix that big problem they griped about in a tweet directed at nobody in particular? In that customer&#8217;s mind, couldn&#8217;t they potentially start to think of that bank or credit union with more positive feelings, as being more trustworthy than they previously might have believed, a kind of &#8220;friend&#8221; who was looking out for them when they had an issue? Maybe that bank or credit union then transitions to a higher level in the realm of influences; it becomes not just a faceless corporate entity that is part of an &#8220;online community,&#8221; but a little bit closer to being part of the &#8220;friends&#8221; circle. I&#8217;m just thinking out loud.</p>
<p>It might sound like I&#8217;m defending social media, but in reality I also question its true ROI value. Or at least I question it&#8217;s value based on what financial services companies have done with it so far. I do trust that some companies will get more creative and impressive as time goes on. </p>
<p>On another point: I agree with you that it&#8217;s important to note the age ranges used to define the demographic groups. In this case, I think they are a little odd. I suppose they wanted to limit Gen Y to the adult portion of that group. But it might have been more useful to go with &#8220;20somethings&#8221; as a label than Gen Y. (I&#8217;ve read one definition of Gen Y as being those born from late 70s to late 90s.)</p>
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